Digital Lawrence: Co-Founder of FomoHunt (2019 Interview)

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interviewing digital Lawrence from FOMO
hunt it’s a really interesting video
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all the way from Singapore Digital
Lawrence welcome to show glad to have
you today thanks for having me
absolutely so I am your coach bit boy
this is your Arcos James what is going
on James what is up everybody
Lawrence man good to talk to you how’s
Singapore it’s nice man it’s a bit warm
it’s a bit warm very humid but it is
this beautiful city still summertime
over there yeah same season so I guess
it’s you know mid September so it’s
pretty hot yeah why just like to give a
shout out to the entire country of
Singapore for not inviting me to this
event I could have gone anyways but you
know appreciate it guys I’m seeing
bringing Jake Canfield out there taking
pictures from rooftop pools night taken
all these pictures of the buildings and
I’m just in here with a friggin green
screen with some beards fine
yeah well it’s a beautiful thing there’s
always in November what’s in November
shaving a beard money then the next big
Singapore conference that’s great so I
so people may have noticed maybe they
haven’t because nobody actually pays
attention to me except for myself but
people may have noticed I have not done
any international traveling since I have
been in crypto or since I’ve been mmm
didn’t you just get your passport redone
so that was the thing is the entire time
all I needed to do was get my passport
updated because it expired in September
of 2017 I think and I’m American I like
I like American food I like American you
know so I’m not a huge international
traveler anyways but I just had to go
all I had to do this literally all I had
to do was go to CVS and get a picture
taken and then send it in and it’s like
a hundred bucks or something you know
four months but I finally it’s it’s in
the mail on the way back to me right now
so hopefully I’m once I’ll be able to
start you know hitting up some of those
conferences let me ask you this question
real quick though whatever they make
there and Singapore whatever their food
is can they do it with ketchup only
that’s probably yeah probably yeah
so why not I’m in then that’s perfect
yeah they got they have chicken rice out
here it’s very popular chicken rice is
like just like what’s what’s chicken
rice so chicken rice it’s like
rotisserie chicken kind of sliced into
eight slivers still with the skin on it
very tender and then lay it over a
better white rice with some like sweet
sauce on top
I mean it’s fucking delicious it’s like
one of their like local dishes that’s
very famous and it’s pretty inexpensive
sweetness I have been to the Philippines
as the closures over there I’ve been I
went there several years ago it has
probably 15 years ago now yeah it a lot
of rice while I was there yeah I love
Stacia it’s probably my favorite place
in the world besides America so you so
you’ve been over there in this
conference obviously but this is not the
you know the only place you’ve been
you’ve been kind of traveling the world
over the last several months I mean
really for longer than that but you guys
have specifically been doing like a
crypto adoption tour kind of thing tells
a little bit about that yeah man you
know we’re both Omaha which is like for blockchain right now it
has every block chain of in the world on
it some adding it some manually added
aggravated some like automatically
scraped we’re just going the biggest
repository from a bunch in events
globally and then we’re going to be
adding some blockchain rewards so
lightning that were crypto things like
that so if you check into an event get
its money you get something so we
thought one of the cool things we could
do is do an international tour and hit
all the emerging markets and throw
meetups they’re on board users on board
people linked up with coined us one of
the nice companies that he’s invested
and co-founded when asked her coin dust
coin dust okay good I think yeah so
that’s an app drop in later this year
but yeah we linked up and we’ve been
hitting all the big incubators and all
the big meetups and accelerators we
started in Toronto and in London Berlin
Budapest Prague Poland and then we went
to Indonesia and now Singapore damn dude
that sounds like a nice little trip it’s
been good it’s been really good it’s a
bit tiring well I can’t really complain
so it’s fun you know yeah definitely so
so far one is is aiming to basically be
the meetup app of blockchain that’s cool
so if you talked a little bit to my
buddy Quinn about what we’re doing
minnerath crypto yeah toy blanket out by
messenger people in the past week yeah
yeah I saw Quinn in New York laughs
right so yeah so we’re we’re getting
ready to go in our own little adoption
tour here which will have all that yeah
I think pretty fun so we’re not gonna
call it the crypto adoption tour because
you guys stole that name I don’t know if
trademarked his trademark but he can
have trademark but totally come to Iowa
field has anyone seen the the new bit
boy hardware wallet it looks like a
little Gameboy
device no no no sort of like a TI 81
calculator or something yep yes I have
not seen that Gary Gary Leland when we
were at podcast movement 2019 in Orlando
he told us about that yeah he told me a
guy was making a hardware wallet called
bit boy and then somebody posted it on
Twitter like last week I guess the guy
that made it and video got like you know
10 or 20,000 I got all these messages of
people being like have you seen this
this is your name what is he doing I was
like I don’t care it’s whatever what I
do I know this money make the film or
mark his name yeah yeah he trade trade
marked his name so nobody else can use
it so if somebody else uses it for like
like a scam or something you know like
says it creates a fake account with his
name he can sue him now
I mean King it was hard to catch a
internet scam or obviously but true not
a bad idea
yeah so I don’t know if anyone’s gonna
try to steal the name Digital warrants
probably not they better not you may be
safe there yeah I you know bitboys also
did you guys know this that bit boy is
the username of the guy who created the
Bitcoin logo I did not I did not know
that yeah yeah it’s it’s actually really
crazy yes um it was back way back in a
forum the guy that I think it was on
Bitcoin talk that was a guy’s using a
totally disappeared after he made the
logo so if you were always asking me if
that’s me to which it’s not I’m just
like I just created it that’s all you’re
getting like ripped off left and right
well there to be fair there it’s just a
common name I didn’t realize how common
the name was like there’s also I mean
it’s like Fred you know Fred or Bill bit
boy obviously you know because there is
a game witness there’s a gameboy device
and then there’s also that the actual ad
bit boy user handle is the guy that is
the developer for Toro which is uh which
is or you can rent you know cars yeah
kind of so those are the luxury rental
cars right no you could get like a
Ferrari or a Porsche you can but they
also have you know they all have Honda
Civics you know the other yeah that app
sketches me out I don’t think
comfortable hey
but I doesn’t seem like it’s worth it’s
like hey borrow my truck for $20 like
what happens if you fuck it up yeah well
people people like it because you don’t
have to go through all the hoops you
have to go through with the rental cars
so like if you have bad credit you got
to rent a you know do a rental car place
then they want you to put down one a
$500 deposit or something correct you
know something like that and your
average person that has bad credit
doesn’t have the extra 500 put down you
know so a lot of people like it for that
for the lower end cars but then of
course they do have the nicer ones as
well so yeah it’s just everywhere it’s
it’s unfortunate for me what one day I’m
just gonna be I’m gonna be like hey
remember that guy that had that same
name as that Hardware wallet that’s so
popular and everybody loves ya what
happened I was that guy like you know be
a mean one day and do you want a vanilla
milkshake with that I’ll be working at
chick-fil-a I’m a good southern boy
right I’ll be obviously you get some my
pleasure my pleasure so okay so other
thing I want to ask you about is so for
this adoption to where you guys are
going around all these different places
like what would you say that you guys
are what are you guys finding by going
to just drop your poker chip what are
you guys finding by going to all these
different places like in terms of
adoption because what I found with our
street videos we’ve been doing here is
we are very far away in America from
adoption basically know what bitcoin is
other than it’s a digital currency and
you buy things on the dark web that’s
what people know about it so what did
these other countries well I think it
depends on which country but it’s so far
away it’s like my I mean even like the
fabled land it was like Shanghai people
like Auto China and mom with their last
summer same as America I think most
people are like just gonna work you know
using their local currency there’s like
a small you know group of people that
that know about Bitcoin that are in
decrypt I mean there’s a I guess it’s
slowly growing there’s more people that
oh I’ve heard of that Adam we’re curious
like coming from traditional tech
markets but I mean a hard-pressed to
find like a city in the world where
people are just like banging out like
Bitcoin payments for like the rent
coffee I mean even Singapore it’s like
these hotels take Bitcoin you know none
of them none of these calves take
bitcoins none of these like restaurants
really I mean you can find like random
weird spots like like some coffee shop
in Poland had like the Visa MasterCard a
Bitcoin symbol yeah faces like that but
you know for the most part it’s about
the same everywhere else in the world
but from my perspective now allegedly
Korea which is the only Asia country in
urban – allegedly Korea is very active
but I don’t think it’s you know there’s
not like a city in the world that like
people were getting paid a Bitcoin yeah
I feel like in America they always act
like oh well Asia is like so much
farther along they are in in terms of
like regulations in my opinion and like
you’re allowed to do more things and
there might be like deeper pockets or
more capital in some ways but there’s
not like everybody’s uses cash and debit
cards for the most part yeah it’s really
I mean I think what we’re finding is for
for those of us who have managed to kind
of get outside of the echo chamber of
cricket or crypto UTA or whatever it
might be I think we’re really actually
finding we’re we’re way farther behind
than I thought we were yeah I mean you
go to like a an echo chamber in San
Francisco it’s like 12 million people
like Oh a Bitcoin and their rights using
it but you go like one block over it’s
like a bar and like 99 percent of people
our age that are there or just say yeah
I’ve heard a Bitcoin are like oh my I
bought one two years ago that’s about it
I’m not like they’re not like social
media profiles around it they don’t know
companies that I’m investments yeah I’ve
heard of it it to them it’s just like
another sheriff or Apple maybe you’re
like that is something we see commonly
is that people say oh that’s like a
stock yeah yeah yeah I mean I have a
buddy who’s like a traditional stock
investor and he’s just like oh yeah have
some Bitcoin I sell it when it goes up I
mean but do you do you even think that
like you know the generation growing up
right now is he
interested in stocks I mean we know that
you know with kryptos and stuff it’s a
little more exciting you know the
returns could be a little bit bigger but
I mean I don’t you know I’ve got a bunch
of younger siblings and I don’t think
any of them invest in the stock market I
mean I could be absolutely wrong but I
just don’t know if you know traditional
investing is what’s happening with the
younger generation even to begin with
yeah and I don’t know if it’s ever
really been I feel like it’s always been
like kind of a later age game at the
stock market equity markets like in
America I mean I mean you’re
hard-pressed to find an 18 year old
graduating high school that’s like knows
about index funds unless their family
taught them but they didn’t learn it in
school you know so I think that like
financial literacy is being passed down
earlier to some families but not like my
I don’t think I was like 14 year old
like ala dates a trend that like 14 year
olds are like learning about index funds
as a whole I think it’s very just like
anecdotal for the most part they might
look youngest brothers like 20 and he’s
like I mean Dubinsky cryptos as I am but
he doesn’t really play he just looks at
stocks it’s just like another crypto
like oh yeah give time to by Tesla here
is it like looking at the chart or
something but I don’t know the whole
financial systems kind of the more
cryptic the more you look at Crowley’s
for me that more you look at crypto
this.jd or stocks look I’m just like
what makes stocks so legit like yeah
like oh well like oh you own a part of
Apple but like do you what does that
really mean
you got their board meeting you know
voting rights no no voting rights you
don’t get to help on the product they
don’t give you anything they don’t like
oh you have the iPhone alone it’s gonna
have three cameras it’ll tell you a week
yeah like you just you’re just like
lending capital to them for them to
reinvest to make more profits hopefully
they distribute that back to you but it
you know the stock market yeah I do
think that you know one thing that
because I mean I had never invested in
stock I mean I may be here and there a
little bit but like I wasn’t in the
stocks or the market or anything before
I got into crypto and you know seeing
the manipulation and cryptocurrency
it does show you how things get
manipulated in other sectors too and so
I watched a show called Billy
if you watch that you know I know you’re
talking about that I’ve never watched it
it’s phenomenal
like it’s a show that I guarantee you I
would not have been interested in before
I got into crypto I would watch two
episodes were like what are they talking
about this is stupid right
I mean crypto and understanding like how
to long assets how to short them
futures options a whole nine yards now I
watch that show and I actually
understand what they’re talking about
and did you know there’s a very thin
line I believe between reality and
fiction in these shows a lot of these
shows that they do research the
political shows like who’s the one with
Kevin Spacey house of cards like yeah if
you want they exaggerate things I
believe and there are some things or
like you know probably outlandish
they’re just totally making up out of
thin air but probably most of stuff
they’re talking about on there is based
off of something that’s really happened
and you know when you how these
billionaires control the financial
markets is really insane yeah I mean
it’s it’s not all sunshine and roses you
know it’s like yeah just invest in this
stock market and everything’s okay
there’s like as much shadiness as it is
in crypto some part of that exists into
like the traditional equity market and
if not just as much it’s just they have
a little more of a smokescreen because
the mainstream media like I I mean they
have entire first shows on like
mainstream news outlets of like chilling
stock tips yeah like how is that
different from a YouTube or being like
by this yeah it’s not so it’s it’s not
it’s just on a way larger scale but like
you know they’ll pump out a certain
stock for six months Oh like so-and-so
earnings are supposed to be really well
I’ll quarter four and they’ll pump it
Mott’s on CNBC and then it dumps an IOU
sorry yeah hey mister that’s such a
great comparison honestly yeah it’s just
one uh it’s just we’re used to it we
grow up to it oh that’s normal like like
I mean they have entire TV networks that
shows stocks pump-and-dump dots what
we’re used to it and the bank’s play
into it and maybe they’re sure some
legitimacy of course but I mean it’s
just it’s like a youtubers shelling out
small cap coin it’s not that much
different from a major TV channel
shilling a specific stock for six months
saying it’s a great buy that’s a good
point yeah I think that I think one of
the big differences and well I mean I’ll
tell you what they’ll say the big
biggest difference is is regulate
exchanges that’s one of the biggest
differences between you know the markets
now is a regulation actually preventing
manipulation no obviously not
but that’s what I think the SEC would
point to and say the big difference is
but you know except for like the
collapse of Lehman Brothers and Bernie
Madoff like the whole financial wreckage
of 2008 9 but yeah yeah I agree like
there are regulations that make
everybody feel good but like I don’t
know what is that I mean it does keep it
a little more you know people aren’t
going broke in the stock market every
day right yeah it’s not like 1929 and
whenever the big crash was like people
aren’t just like losing their ass every
day it’s pretty well-balanced and also
the government steps in you know like
the Federal Reserve with this
quantitative easing where they have a
whole crunch Protection Team which is
combination of the SEC financial markets
I forget which ones but like four of the
major Treasury Department’s and it’s
literally the plunge Protection Team by
law work where they prevent the stock
market from crashing yeah so like you
know the like these shit coins that like
dump 100 percent if this was regulated
by the government via the same policies
the government would stop halt the
trading it when it Dom’s thirty percent
goes well guys can’t let people get
wrecked on this the government’s gonna
come bail out the shareholders so it’s
like they keep it it’s less volatile
yeah you know because the government
will cover the downside well I think I
think also it another difference between
the crypto markets and the stock markets
is in the crypto markets if you have a
hundred thousand dollars you can
actually make the market move in the
stock market you need millions of
dollars to make the stock to make it
move I mean for one G less billion you
know yeah for bit for Bitcoin a million
dollars you can significantly impact the
market right yeah and I guess that’s
just a point of liquidity
you know maybe eventually when the
markets more mature it’ll be like the
stock market but yeah right now if you
throw ever ten million dollars at Apple
it’s like okay don’t care
you’d have to throw like a fleet of five
going into our market my on Apple for
this someone to be like oh shit what’s
going on here
why’d you say like if you if you put a I
think it’s a million dollars if you put
a million dollars in Bitcoin at one time
you know if you put it in the right way
through leveraged trading or something
like that like I mean you’re actually
trading with ten times that you know so
that that’s a significant because the
the entire market cap right now is like
260 billion Bitcoin dominance is 70% so
I guess it’s around you know 190 billion
somewhere around there so if you have a
million dollars in your leveraged
trading a hundred X on that I mean
that’s 100 million dollars that’s that’s
a pretty significant amount you know you
know ya need you would need to have
stones of Steel to leverage trade a
million dollars are you kidding you you
think you would also have that million
dollars then you might also have enough
to be able to manipulate the market to
make sure that you win that’s what those
Bart patterns that’s a good point that’s
one that’s why they call me bit boy but
snowman electret other things but I mean
not call me a hundred other things a
hundred other things that are called
business so what do you what do you
think Laurence have you seen this new
thing where the I thought this is very
interesting so I did a little video last
night talking about the J clayton s
easy-chair talking about you know they F
is close he basically said we’re much
closer to it you know that the ETF hope
IAM yada yada yada but the interest
about that statement so said basically
we’re seeing less manipulation and
do you believe that’s true I know you
said that yeah I don’t know what he’s
basing that on and like compared to what
like a month ago or commit compared to
five years ago I would say probably a
year a year ago when the ETF started
heating up
yeah maybe but also I think maybe the
markets just like kind of still a
protracted to bear market so there’s not
as much like look what it need to
manipulate lis like you know and it’s
like all that money and a huge bull run
being like pump
between like hundreds of different alts
and exchanges and arbitrage Inge like
it’s a lot easier to manipulate a market
right now and like everything’s kind of
flat it’s like it’s pretty obvious that
something pulls in 10x people
immediately gonna go to the scam but you
know in a bull run and that’s crazy and
tons of like new liquidity something
pulled 10x you were like great where’s
the next tonight’s yeah so 100 where’s
the thousand X yeah what is a thousand X
so I don’t know I mean where he’s been
he probably knows better than me you
know so like if he thinks that then I
guess he has some data but I don’t ever
know what that could be based upon I
mean the markets are somewhat flat over
the past week Lamont so no manipulation
and Chris the markets flat maybe but who
were the manipulators and where have
they gone I don’t know here I think if I
were a betting man which I am I
that’s why I’m in crypto but I believe
that what he’s referring to there is
they’re getting if you look at coin
market cap which we’ve destroyed on our
show the last few weeks but you know one
of the things that happen when coin
market have made this change to their
algorithm recently is they now we’re
requiring top 200 projects to have one
of their verified data exchange partners
so basically what that means is they
have to have an exchange I believe that
is in there kind of like they’ve created
an alliance of exchanges I know I did
sort of that I have to go right with the
audience and I think you know all the
big ones but hippy T C’s in there so you
know it’s not legit right so so all you
got is these these exchanges that are
now part of this alliance and now claim
market cap saying you got to be on one
of these exchanges or else we won’t
count your data as legit well grapple
with this is to the SEC that may appear
like they’re making progress and there’s
less manipulation but we know even on by
Nance there’s a ton of manipulation so
just because these you know these
exchanges are saying like oh we’re
committed to removing fake volume I mean
it’s not really you know I mean we’re
still seeing the fake volume but they’re
still charging them like two million
dollars to get listed well you know
what’s interesting is some projects have
came out and said that you know not only
are they charging you that but then
they’re requiring you to give
them X number of their core of your coin
and then here you’re making them
agreeing to letting them use BOTS to
pump up your volume like that’s part of
the agreement you signed when you get on
some of these exchanges and some I mean
some of the you know the supply that
they’re asking for is I mean they become
a pretty good controller of your project
yeah it’s it’s sketchy for sure I mean
in some ways it’s very similar to IPO
and on the stock exchange you know like
when uber whoever wants to IPO they have
to go to Merrill Lynch or one of these
big underwriters who end up buying 5 to
15% of their entire stock
underwriting it buying it and then
putting it on the stock exchange and
kind of be in the market makers for the
first couple years or not so it’s kind
of a practice carried on from the stock
exchange where all right you know like
to IPO you have to pay tens of millions
of dollars to one of these big banks to
put you on Nasdaq or NSE they’re the
that’s your listing fee to go public and
also some of that is your BOTS for
liquidity in your market makers so
there’s like order books so I think some
of these exchanges yeah straight-up kind
of scam ii but same time I guess I’m
kind of like I mean if you want a little
bit an exchange and charge people do it
like you know like no it’s like free
market like you know obviously if you’re
hurting people I’m like outright
scamming people I don’t like it but you
know for people don’t like go to
business and then charge people to like
be on their platform I’m kind of like
you were welcome to go build your own
because I mean I guess that’s the spirit
of crypto in my opinion like its
decentralize like you’re welcome to list
your project wherever you want you’re
welcome to pay a however much they’re
asking if you want to call them out call
them out if you don’t want to call them
out but don’t work with them don’t well
yeah a lot of these exchanges are like
straight-up scammy but yeah I think a
lot of them have cleaned up or the MA
get the people in the market do a pretty
good job at pleasing for the most part
but you know I think the government
you’re seeing a lot of SEC action
letters coming in and now that there’s
you know there’s gonna be a pretty clear
debt by the end of this year like a lot
of projects are getting taken down right
now behind the scenes like oh yeah
heavily by the government’s yeah whoo
uh-oh hope it’s not my project Hodja
kids had a wife TC is coming yeah so let
me ask you a question this is not crypto
related yesterday was my mom’s birthday
happy birthday happy birthday my veins
nice happy birthday man happy belated oh
my gosh is my mom’s birthday too
yeah not my birthday for my mom’s
actually September 10th yep nice nice
happy birthday miss Lawrence momma
Lawrence yeah so yesterday we’re we’re
having a conversation you know we go
hang hang with my siblings we’re having
a conversation about your favorite snack
food and so it comes up to chips what’s
your what’s your favorite chip obviously
we all kind of go around and go around
the room and talk about our favorite
chip and I get to the Doritos jacked now
I found this really hilarious
description you guys know what Doritos
Jack is it like really hot no they’re
like the super thick it’s like if you
were to make like Doritos but like make
them three times as thick as a normal
steroids yeah I mean I think I’ve seen
it so this is the funniest description
of a Doritos jacked it is the clumsy
overeager chubby younger brother of the
Dorito that wants so badly to hang out
your mouth but just not quite cool
enough but so Doritos Jack this could be
your like the gear mo of the Dorito yeah
sure I am Guillermo of the show I
realized so my answer was Doritos
Lawrence what is your favorite snack and
or chip I’m not a big chip person I mean
I like chips but I thought take your
favorite chip I’m gonna just go classic
like kringles like cheddar yeah
Cheddar’s is good Pringles are good or
just a stack of them it all day I mean
or the classic Doritos Cool Ranch I mean
that’s just a classic class and then a
snack I can we’re talking on how healthy
I mean I’m just gonna say free roll up
off the top roll up in a long time
oh yeah and then if you’re talking to
healthy I can eat like seven watermelons
no no we’re not those like we’re not
talking out to here let’s go ahead and
skip that I mean throw me on like a
fruit roll-up in a cheese Pringle
and I’m like locked in for the evening
so a question about the watermelon
there’s some people in the South that
like to throw salt on a watermelon
I’ve never my mom never was I’ve never
been a fan of that at all no I’m not
I started do this thing I can’t remember
saw someone else do it but I put like
Tony’s I don’t know if you ever heard of
that see it’s like a Cajun seasoning the
watermelon yeah it’s like a little spoon
cuff because they do like they put
cayenne pepper Kanye and I think in LA I
saw some dude do it like watermelon
slices with pepper and although it’s a
little bit of salt a little bit of
pepper it’s pretty good then to it nice
y-yeah I grew up eating watermelon with
salt on it because that’s what my family
does and I thought that was the way that
you ate watermelon and then once I got
older and I was poor and couldn’t afford
salt right as a college student I said
yes that’s right
I wasn’t even worth my salt but I said
you know what I’m gonna try it I’m just
gonna eat it and I was like wow my
family’s been lying to me ever since I
was a child
yeah you know I prefer the juiciness of
the watermelon with no with no salt it’s
funny when you learn something from your
family really young and then you get
like oh and then you’re like wait that’s
fucking weird but sometimes there’s
things that you’re like you know that
sometimes there’s things are you
starting great well you don’t have
children I don’t think right you don’t
have kids
no but there’s things I like ingrained
in my children that my family ingrained
in me because I got older and I was like
gosh they really were right about this
thing you know
so I don’t know yeah so it’s it’s weird
to see both things but if I if I had to
go with the chip I mean it’s really hard
for me because I really won thing I
really like is salt and vinegar wavy
chips like like ruffles but salt and
vinegar but they only make them in like
the smaller brands like Tom’s or some of
the random chips you know you see at the
store the major major chips I got to go
probably with the Doritos chili
I like the Doritos the chili ones the
sweet chili wheat chili yes which way I
love those yeah dude at the bottom of
the bag when all the little you know
things another one I like that I go in
waves with no pun intended is the free
honey barbecue twist oh my goodness yeah
I’m all in I mean you know that’s the
type of thing that you crushed the
entire bag of I mean you just can’t stop
eating them easy no matter how big the
bag is you can’t stop Costco no I don’t
know if they make big bags they make
them all team size bags really yeah they
get the really small bags but they also
in those they have the mediums which are
like they’re just a little bigger than a
small chip bag but like the whole bag is
almost full like it’s it’s heavy when
you pick it up you know it’s not like
your typical chip bag where you know 3/4
of its just air solid but I got to say
my number one I got to definitely go
with takis I love talkies
I can go ham on some talkies man I love
those things when I first you’ve never
had him oh you like spicy stuff yeah but
the talking so the first time I had him
was several years ago somebody had
brought something for their lunch in a
place where I was working and I brought
him and I was like I see you know I mean
it’s a Mexican chip you know so yeah you
see the little Mexican Cession section
at the gas station you know with the
bimbo bimbo stuff and you know the the
you know chili flavored chips or not the
lines usually flavor chicharrones yeah
they cheek that Rhoda you see this oven
and for a long time I was like you know
whatever I don’t want that section but
when I discovered the talkies now the
talkies a move mainstream though the
talkies are like yeah I got an early oh
I got in early I got in early on the
talkies yeah yeah so they’re so good the
first time I had him I said this will
forever be my favorite snack and it is
you know but they’re spicy one think
about beef jerky though what’s that
don’t forget about beef jerky I know
that’s a big snack of yours oh yeah I
eat so much beef jerky it’s insane
it doesn’t matter how much my wife buys
she’ll come home with like ten bags of
beef jerky and beef sticks no stuff it
never makes it more than one day at my
house never no matter how much she buys
so I loved you beef jerky
yeah dude have you ever had no man’s
land beef jerky
I don’t know ELISA it’s kind of a new go
to hit to hit the mainstream yeah it’s
good yeah it’s it’s very similar to
homemade beef jerky if you’ve ever had
homemade oh yeah it’s like really dry
and it comes in strips instead of the
little bub oh it’s the best
I love no means lean the bad thing is I
can’t buy it cheaper on their wholesale
site then I can buy as a gas station so
like it’s really expensive it’s like
nine dollars for a pretty small bag you
just got a he’s got a deal with it you
know I could either take that but how
about speaking of chips how about this
weird thing that I had a couple weeks
ago hot cheetos ice cream oh I saw that
what was that it was good so so I took
my wife out it was her birthday a couple
weeks ago you know momma wild things and
my new editor-in-chief of bit boy crypto
calm she’s doing a phenomenal job
writing some really cool art okay fair
enough yeah so we went out for her
birthday and I wanted to take her to the
Disney Store she loves Disney we ever do
that nation coming up soon you know and
like so I took her there to get her some
stuff in the Disney Store like some
shirts our trip or whatever and when we
walked in immediately there’s this place
you know ice cream ice cream cereal bar
something like that a new store and to
where you can get cereal with your ice
cream so you know like frosted flakes
and ice cream fruity pebbles you know
the whole nine yards right yeah they
have some special blends and one was Hot
Cheetos and I said you know what this is
a I want ice cream with cereal I want
what you guys are selling here I don’t
want to get this you know hot cheeto
thing but then I remembered with the
last time I was in Las Vegas there was a
hot cheeto dusted corn on the cob stick
that you could get yeah I mean I didn’t
get it and I’ve regretted that decision
ever since I got back so when I go out
there for world crypto con I am
definitely getting it sat in a place a
hotdog stand near I think near the place
where they have the ferris wheel they
got like really AM they got like a BLT
hot dog that’s like a sandwich on a hot
dog it’s crazy so I said you know what
I’m going to get this hot cheeto
ice-cream even though I would rather
have the other ice cream cause I don’t
want to regret
this opportunity I mean this is taken
life by the horns right now you know
yeah so what they did is is they crud
they put hot cheetos in the bottom of
the ice cream and then they blend it all
up together and it has like kind of a
weird orange tint to it and then they
dust hot cheeto dust on top of it now
I’ve already confessed my love for
talkies now we’re going deep on the
snack conversation guys
I’ve already professed my love for
talkie so you know I like Hot Stuff hot
cheetos I don’t like as much as talkies
but I do love the Hot Chip okay so for
me I’ve actually done this before where
I’ve eaten talked talkies and chased it
with ice cream because at some point I
just can’t eat anymore and I got to
chase it with ice cream so I can’t keep
you anymore so so I actually thought
like this could be a good idea and let
me tell you it was phenomenal it was
really sweet now by the time you got to
the very bottom of the cone the
spiciness is overwhelming the ice cream
so like it your mouth mush mush what do
you mean yeah it does like the duck just
turned to like cheeto mush I wouldn’t
say cheeto mush I mean it’s blended in
you know it’s like you blended it yeah
man it’s blend it is I’m on the top bite
anymore huh will you say James alright
okay that’s not much it’s not much
yeah fine but by the time you get to
that you’ve already gone through the
dust because the dust is sprinkled on
the top of a cone so by the time you get
you know even with the cone already
killed the dust you’re now into the
extra hot cheetos that are blended in
blended not mushed in they’re blended in
and it’s sweet it’s good I’ll tell you
another thing I had that was really good
when I was in the Philippines that
people will always be like talk about it
cheese ice cream no I’ll imagine it
sounds kraut dude shark tank
and for that alone Kevin okay I’m out no
but this out no I’m out I don’t want to
hear about it I it’s like the hard
chocolate shout out it Dairy Queen hey
you guys in the heart chocolate shell on
a Dairy Queen Dairy Queen cone about
it’s like that but it’s a sweet cheese
on top
and it’s actually really good dude it’s
Megan oh and I would be saying this
about your position that’s the end of
the show you killed it yeah I came out I
don’t like vegetables so I can’t be that
adventurous with like foreign food but
if it’s some things that I actually like
even though it might sound kind of gross
like cheese and ice cream like I can be
adventurous with that I can’t be
adventurous eating a freakin soup that
has broccoli has it’s got onions in it
you know I can’t do it I’ll eat the cow
tongue I can’t eat the onions hmm wow
you’re out I’m really sorry you are
missing out on all my ice cream that
most of my stories with adventure of
food involves ice cream maybe that’s why
I’m so fat so what to say
good nice that’s right so yeah so I
guess that pretty much breezed it in let
me ask you this one last question
lawrence cuz this is something that
we’ve been going back and forth with for
the last you know the last few weeks
what is your thought on coin market cap
cuz now I came out and white knighted
for him a little bit the other day so
big did he know he did it was right
after I made a video about the traction
so I don’t know he’s on my video or not
but he white knight it for him a little
bit I’m not throwing him under the wheel
I can die or whatever but what’s your
opinion on Kumar yeah
what was i role now as a second I mean I
guess alright I mean I don’t know what
other like what else is there like coin
Keiko coin like I don’t know I mean I
guess that’s how I used to check all the
prices I know I use like apps and stuff
I mean for from a data provider point of
view I guess they’re pretty accurate but
like from like a platform in business
model I don’t don’t really follow them
that close to be honest like I like my
only experiences with the coin cap is
like checking prices you know just see
like what prices but no I mean I think
they’ve gotten some flack in the back
for having like that advertisers before
and stuff and they’re – like the way
they bring kryptos I don’t know exactly
enough to like say but I know how people
got pissed that I’m like the way like
their algorithm the sorting method is it
might be shady like how they used to do
things or how they do things now but
I don’t know I guess like the more I
travel like I just met like I I meet
like a lot of these people like I know
some of the people from core mark cab
and I know some of the people from the
exchange isn’t it’s like they bow I have
had some practices that aren’t like good
but I don’t know I mean I guess I’ll
white knight for them a little bit
because they’re like so og a bit that
they’ve like done so much or like you’re
headed so much but there could be better
off calling platforms like I’ve checked
out things on like clink echo Quinn that
Greek I forget the other ones so what
else is there there’s a couple good ones
did you know I’m always curious to see
if people know this or not did you know
that coin market cap is far and away the
number one web site in all of Krypton I
didn’t know that actually cuz it’s not
even close it crushes every it crushes
finance it crushes coinbase and crushes
coin Telegraph it crushes everything by
a large margin
oh yeah their number their top 500
website in the world yeah they’re about
three they were almost in the top 100
during the bull run yeah it’s pretty
insane I mean they have a they are
sleeping giants you have the industry
that people don’t even understand the
scale that they’re on there’s a lot of
people trying to disrupt them they used
to be very hard because of their brand
equity that they have yeah and they’re
just like domain Authority and like
their their clout you could say a but
yeah I didn’t know either honestly I was
doing a lot of research I was like okay
kind of traffic ranking this coin does
have there’s a coin Telegraph have what
does Finance have what does coinbase
have I did like some late night research
like but maybe out a year ago and then I
was like oh what about Quinn mark
captain I was like number 400 in the
world yeah I know
crazy other yeah they’re they’re they’re
powerhouses for sure it’s crazy this
industry is very it’s I mean good luck
trying to find an interview with the CEO
of Quinn mark cap good luck trying to
find out what he looks like
I know it’s funny listen this is funny
they’re doing what other doing a big
they should do a reveal then they are
and November in Singapore they’re doing
a big event come meet the founder and
CEO of my market cap see that’s because
of my that’s because of our our podcast
let me call him out left and right it
yeah obviously we may have had that
plane already I would assume they did
well yeah it’s it is definitely crazy I
mean what other company do you know of
that’s a 20 to 30 million dollar company
per year annually that you cannot find
out who the CEO is when you find his
name but you can’t find out any
information about him other than that
you don’t know what he looks like
nothing is crazy oh you can think it’s a
morning grab baby I mean there are some
like funds and stuff that make like
crazy money that you would never know
but no like mainstream you know company
now that’s one of the few and maybe for
good reasons there were very maybe he
looks like Quasimodo I mean that’s what
I think like maybe he just doesn’t maybe
he’s like I mean I’m an ugly man I’m
terrible like maybe that’s what it is
maybe he looks like an Enzo like maybe
that’s what the hailer
he looks pretty normal you seen him yeah
you shyster Lauritz you know anything
about he’s got big yeah well cool
Lawrence well I guess that is all we got
I tell everybody where everybody can
find you digital on some Twitter same on
Instagram I think yeah at the website
now to judge Lawrence calm and yeah got
that secured and just fo Montcalm check
it out how it’s the best platform
encrypt oh no you just give it a look
nice we appreciate your time today buddy
thanks for calling in from Singapore
thanks for having me so it’s like kind
of just in a lobby Wi-Fi is kind of
weird here off and on so hot down to the
lobby to get on yeah well I think we can
hear the Singaporean government tapping
into the call so yeah about there cool
thanks dude thank you I later guys
they got musicworx reach are you coming

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